WARNING

NOT EVERYTHING THAT

CALLS ITSELF ORTHODOX IS

TRULY ORTHODOX


The above warning was given to me when I first met Orthodoxy in 1986. Today [2009] it is even more perilous, even more difficult to find the Royal Path. For one thing there is a far greater abundance of misinformation. And many materials are missing, and other materials are being rapidly rewritten. For another thing there are fewer than ever guides remaining on the Royal Path, especially who speak English. Hopefully this website will be a place where Newcomers to the Faith can keep at least one foot on solid ground, while they are "exploring."


blog owner: Joanna Higginbotham

joannahigginbotham@runbox.com

jurisdiction: ROCA under Vladyka Agafangel

who did not submit to the RocorMP union in 2007

DISCLAIMER



How does somebody find the Church today?


How does somebody find the Church today?  On what do you base your decision?


based on history?  But today most of the histories are self-recorded, and some are purposely deceiving. 

based on piety?  But an outward show of piety can easily be borrowed from the real Church – adopting fasting rules and taking out pews does not make a church "Orthodox".

based on canonicity?  But even vigante groups claim to be canonical.  There's even one out there that publishes "pedigree papers"!

based on the personality of the priest?  or on his "wisdom" or leadership abilities or "people skills"?  


Any of these ways might work with LUCK.  But anyone who slips into the Church by luck can just as easily slip out of the Church by luck.  There is only one sure way:


SEEK FIRST THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN


The true Church has a heavenly counterpart: the Church Triumphant.  Most of what calls itself "Orthodox" out there today has no real connection with the Church Triumphant.  These are either real Churches that have "lost their savor" or Churches that were phony from the beginning – manufactured for the purpose of causing confusion/schism/chaos.

To find the true Church I see only one sure way:  to befriend the members of the Church Triumphant with all your strength.  Learn about the Holy Fathers and the Saints, read their lives, read their writings, pray to them and ask their assistance, ask them to help you enter into their company especially now before you die, and also in eternity.

If you honestly seek first the Kingdom, then you will recognize Fr. Seraphim as a sure guide.  Let Fr. Seraphim Rose introduce you to the Church Triumphant.  He made it.  You can follow the path he forged.  It is a sure path.  It might not be the straightest path possible, but it is straight enough to get you out of the woods before your death.


If you decide to trust Fr. Seraphim, then see that Fr. Seraphim and St. John both were intensely loyal to ROCOR and true sons of ROCOR and both fruits of ROCOR – then that should be enough reason to trust ROCOR.  (And the Churches ROCOR is in communion with.)

That decision narrows the list of possible jurisdictions down quite a bit.  Next the only problem left is finding the true ROCOR.  

These jurisdictions all claim to be the real ROCOR:

ROCA (a.k.a. ROCOR) (Metropolitan Agafangel)
ROCA (a.k.a  ROCOR) (Bp. Andronik)
ROCOR(MP) (Metropolitan Hilarion)
ROAC
ROCiE
RTOC

Examine these jurisdictions in light of "Birds of a feather flock together", i.e., check out their friends.  

ROAC, ROCiE, RTOC are all so similar it is very difficult to tell them apart.  They are in communion with no one.  Why are they not at least in communion with each other?

ROCOR-MP is in communion with everybody, indiscriminately, EXCEPT for the jurisdictions who won't join them in being indiscriminate.  They are in communion with the Moscow Patriarch and the EP.  Read St. John's 1933 report on the Decline of the EP, see if you want to be a part of something he does not approve.

That leaves ROCA.  ROCA is still today in peace, harmony, and oneness of mind in the Sisterhood with 3 other (Old Calendar Greeks, Old Calendar Romanians, Old Calendar Bulgarians).  This is the same Sisterhood that was existing intact before the RocorMP union in 2007.  The Sister Churches are the true friends of ROCOR.

You will want to notice, there are two ROCORs.  One under Metr. Agafangel.  One under Bp. Andronik  Then note which one is the one in communion with the Sister Churches.

That leaves one:  ROCOR under Metropolitan Agafangel.


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Another explanation, saying the same thing, given to a potential catechumen who is under the influence of various world-orthodox advisors, and not surprisingly, rather confused and wanting to check out ROCA. 

Have you read St. John's History of ROCOR?  This is informative about
the jurisdiction of ROCOR and also helps impart the spirit of ROCOR.


World Orthodoxy (read: OCA) always insisted, – even teaches in their
catechism) that ROCOR is a schism.  Well, St. John never thought
so, nor did Fr. Seraphim.

So the idea that ROCOR healed its schism when it united with the MP
is absurd, since ROCOR never was in schism in the first place.

Detailed information is here:

Once you have overcome that hurdle of thinking that ROCOR was a
schism, and you are convinced that the ROCOR is the jurisdiction to
which both St. John and Fr. Seraphim were intensely loyal – the
next question is "Where is the real ROCOR?"

In 2000 the Greek Church was already fragmented.  Fr. Seraphim
predicted the same thing would happen to ROCOR.  And it did.

The first fragments went to the right wing:
  • ROCiE (and RTOC)
  • ROAC
The next to last fragment went to the left wing: 
ROCOR-MP

The latest fragment was 2014, Bp. Andronik broke away with a large portion of the flock.  But the Sister Churches are not in communion with him.  The Sister Churches remain in communion with Metr. Agafangel.

All of this information can only help you decide where the true Church
is using logic.  It is not a sure method, because facts can be
distorted and argued.  You need to develop a spiritual DISCERNMENT of
the essence of the Church.  The Church is two parts:  earthly and
heavenly.  Militant and Triumphant.  You want to strive to discern the
Church Triumphant – and I promise it will not be found in world
orthodoxy or in the schisms.  If you think you found it there
you fool yourself.  Many people are fooled.

By reading the real Fr. Seraphim (not Platina's new version of the
neo-Seraphim) you have the opportunity to absorb the ability to
discern the royal path – Fr. Seraphim is capable of imparting this
because he had it: he received it from St. John.  This will give you
the ability to discern where the true Church is.  You will know in
your heart and the facts will all fit together perfectly and all will be clear to
you.
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Once you have decided that ROCOR is the Church of Fr. Seraphim and St. John, next you are faced with the question of which is the real ROCOR?

Only the ROCOR under Agafangel is recognized by the Sister Churches:
   
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Decline of the EP

St. John on Ecumenism

The Decline of the Patriarchate of Constantinople
by St. John of Shanghai and San Francisco, 1938

Orthodox Word, #45, July-August 1972
Introduction by Fr. Seraphim, translator

The anti-Orthodox career and statements of the late Patriarch Athenagoras of sorry memory have been so striking that they have perhaps tended to obscure the fact that the apostasy of this one man was merely the culmination of a long and thorough process of the departure from the Orthodox Faith of an entire Local Orthodox Church.  The promise of the new Patriarch Demetrios to "follow upon the footsteps of our great Predecessor... in pursuing Christian unity" and to institute-"dialogues" with Islam and other non-Christian religions, while recognizing "the holy blessed Pope of Rome Paul VI, the first among equals within the universal Church of Christ" (Enthronement Address)—only confirms this observation and reveals the depths to which the Church of Constantinople has fallen in our own day.

It should be noted that the title "Ecumenical" was bestowed on the Patriarch of Constantinople as a result of the transfer of the capital of the Roman Empire to this city in the 4th century; the Patriarch then became the bishop of the city which was the center of the ecumene or civilized world.  Lamentably, in the 20th century the once-glorious See of Constantinople, having long since lost its earthly glory, has cheaply tried to regain prestige by entering on two new "ecumenical" paths: it has joined the "ecumenical movement," which is based on an anti-Christian universalism; and, in imitation of apostate Rome, it has striven to subject the other Orthodox Churches to itself and make of its Patriarch a kind of Pope of Orthodoxy.

The following article, which is part of a report on all the Autocephalous Churches made by Archbishop John to the Second All-Diaspora Sobor of the Russian Church Abroad held in Yugoslavia in 1938, gives the historical background of the present state of the Patriarchate of Constantinople.  It could well have been written today, nearly 35 years later, apart from a few small points which have changed since then, not to mention the more spectacular "ecumenical" acts and statements of the Patriarchate in recent years, which have served to change it from the "pitiful spectacle" here described into one of the leading world centers of anti-Orthodoxy.

THE PRIMACY among Orthodox Churches is possessed by the Church of the New Rome, Constantinople, which is headed by a Patriarch who has the title of Ecumenical, and therefore is itself called the Ecumenical Patriarchate, which territorially reached the culmination of its development at the end of the 18th century. At that time there was included in it the whole of Asia Minor, the whole Balkan Peninsula (except for Montenegro), together with the adjoining islands, since the other independent Churches in the Balkan Peninsula had been abolished and had become part of the Ecumenical Patriarchate. The Ecumenical Patriarch had received from the Turkish Sultan, even before the taking of Constantinople by the Turks, the title of Millet Bash, that is, the head of the people, and he was considered the head of the whole Orthodox population of the Turkish Empire. This, however, did not prevent the Turkish government from removing patriarchs for any reason whatever and calling for new elections, at the same time collecting a large tax from the newly elected patriarch. Apparently the latter circumstance had a great significance in the changing of patriarchs by the Turks, and therefore it often happened that they again allowed on the Patriarchal Throne a patriarch whom they had removed, after the death of one or several of his successors. Thus, many patriarchs occupied their see several times, and each accession was accompanied by the collection of a special tax from them by the Turks.

In order to make up the sum which he paid on his accession to the Patriarchal Throne, a patriarch made a collection from the metropolitans subordinate to him, and they, in their turn, collected from the clergy subordinate to them. This manner of making up its finances left an imprint on the whole order of the Patriarchate's life. In the Patriarchate there was likewise evident the Greek "Great Idea," that is, the attempt to restore Byzantium, at first in a cultural, but later also in a political sense. For this reason in all important; posts there were assigned people loyal to this idea, and for the most part Greeks from the part of Constantinople called the Phanar, where also the Patriarchate was located. Almost always the episcopal sees were filled by Greeks, even though in the Balkan Peninsula the population was primarily Slavic.

At the beginning of the 19th century there began a movement of liberation among the Balkan peoples, who were striving to liberate themselves from the authority of the Turks. There arose the states of Serbia, Greece, Rumania, and Bulgaria, at first semi-independent, and then completely independent from Turkey. Parallel with this there proceeded also the formation of new Local Churches which were separate from the Ecumenical Patriarchate. Even though it was unwillingly, under the influence of circumstances, the Ecumenical Patriarchs permitted the autonomy of the Churches in the vassal princedoms, and later they recognized the full independence of the Churches in Serbia, Greece, and Rumania. Only the Bulgarian question was complicated in view on the one hand of the impatience of the Bulgarians, who had not yet attained political independence, and, on the other hand, thanks to the unyieldingness of the Greeks. The self-willed declaration of Bulgarian autocephaly on the foundation of a firman of the Sultan was not recognized by the Patriarchate, and in a number of dioceses there was established a parallel hierarchy.

The boundaries of the newly-formed Churches coincided with the boundaries of the new states, which were growing all the time at the expense of Turkey, at the same time acquiring new dioceses from the Patriarchate. Nonetheless, in 1912, when the Balkan War began, the Ecumenical Patriarchate had about 70 metropolias and several bishoprics. The war of 1912-13 tore away from Turkey a significant part of the Balkan Peninsula with such great spiritual centers as Salonica and Athos. The Great War of 1914-18 for a time deprived Turkey of the whole of Thrace and the Asia Minor coast with the city of Smyrna, which were subsequently lost by Greece in 1922 after the unsuccessful march of the Greeks on Constantinople.

Here the Ecumenical Patriarch could not so easily allow out of his authority the dioceses which had been torn away from Turkey, as had been done previously. There was already talk concerning certain places which from of old had been under the spiritual authority of Constantinople. Nonetheless, the Ecumenical Patriarch in 1922 recognized the annexation to the Serbian Church of all areas within the boundaries of Yugoslavia; he agreed to the inclusion within the Church of Greece of a number of dioceses in the Greek State, preserving, however, his jurisdiction over Athos; and in 1937 he recognized even the autocephaly of the small Albanian Church, which originally he had not recognized.

The boundaries of the Ecumenical Patriarchate and the number of its dioceses had significantly decreased. At the same time the Ecumenical Patriarchate in fact lost Asia Minor also, although it remained within its jurisdiction. In accordance with the peace treaty between Greece and Turkey in 1923, there occurred an exchange of population between these powers, so that the whole Greek population of Asia Minor had to resettle in Greece. Ancient cities, having at one time a great significance in ecclesiastical matters and glorious in their church history, remained without a single inhabitant of the Orthodox faith. At the same time, the Ecumenical Patriarch lost his political significance in Turkey, since Kemal Pasha deprived him of his title of head of the people. Factually, at the present time under the Ecumenical Patriarch there are five dioceses within the boundaries of Turkey in addition to Athos with the surrounding places in Greece. The Patriarch is extremely hindered in the manifestation even of his indisputable rights in church government within the boundaries of Turkey, where he is viewed as an ordinary Turkish subject-official, being furthermore under the supervision of the government. The Turkish government, which interferes in all aspects of the life of its citizens, only as a special privilege has permitted him, as also the Armenian Patriarch, to wear long hair and clerical garb, forbidding this to the rest of the clergy. The Patriarch has no right of free exit from Turkey, and lately the government is ever more insistently pursuing his removal to the new capital of Ankara (the ancient Ancyra), where there are now no Orthodox Christians, but where the administration with all the branches of governmental life is concentrated.

Such an outward abasement of the hierarch of the city of St. Constantine, which was once the capital of the ecumene, has not caused reverence toward him to be shaken among Orthodox Christians, who revere the See of Sts. Chrysostom and Gregory the Theologian. From the height of this See the successor of Sts. John and Gregory could spiritually guide the whole Orthodox world, if only he possessed their firmness in the defense of righteousness and truth and the breadth of views of the recent Patriarch Joachim III. However, to the general decline of the Ecumenical Patriarchate there has been joined the direction of its activity after the Great War. The Ecumenical Patriarchate has desired to make up for the loss of dioceses which have left its jurisdiction, and likewise the loss of its political significance within the boundaries of Turkey, by submitting to itself areas where up to now there has been no Orthodox hierarchy, and likewise the Churches of those states where the government is not Orthodox. Thus, on April 5, 1922, Patriarch Meletius designated an Exarch of Western and Central Europe with the title of Metropolitan of Thyateira with residency in London; on March 4, 1923, the same Patriarch consecrated the Czech Archimandrite Sabbatius Archbishop of Prague and All Czechoslovakia; on April 15, 1924, a Metropolia of Hungary and All Central Europe was founded with a See in Budapest, even though there was already a Serbian bishop there. In America an Archbishopric was established under the Ecumenical Throne, then in 1924 a Diocese was established in Australia with a See in Sydney. In 1938 India was made subordinate to the Archbishop of Australia.

At the same time there has proceeded the subjection of separate parts of the Russian Orthodox Church which have been torn away from Russia. Thus, on June 9, 1923, the Ecumenical Patriarch accepted into his jurisdiction the Diocese of Finland as an autonomous Finnish Church; on August 23, 1923, the Estonian Church was made subject in the same way, on November 13, 1924, Patriarch Gregory VII recognized the autocephaly of the Polish Church under the supervision of the Ecumenical Patriarchate―that is, rather autonomy. In March, 1936, the Ecumenical Patriarch accepted Latvia into his jurisdiction. Not limiting himself to the acceptance into his jurisdiction of Churches in regions which had fallen away from the borders of Russia, Patriarch Photius accepted into his jurisdiction Metropolitan Eulogius in Western Europe together with the parishes subordinate to him, and on February 28, 1937, an Archbishop of the jurisdiction of the Ecumenical Patriarch in America consecrated Bishop Theodore-Bogdan Shpilko for a Ukrainian Church in North America.

Thus, the Ecumenical Patriarch has become actually "ecumenical" [universal] in the breadth of the territory which is theoretically subject to him. Almost the whole earthly globe, apart from the small territories of the three Patriarchates and the territory of Soviet Russia, according to the idea of the Patriarchate's leaders, enters into the composition of the Ecumenical Patriarchate. Increasing without limit their desires to submit to themselves parts of Russia, the Patriarchs of Constantinople have even begun to declare the uncanonicity of the annexation of Kiev to the Moscow Patriarchate, and to declare that the previously existing southern Russian Metropolia of Kiev should be subject to the Throne of Constantinople. Such a point of view is not only clearly expressed in the Tomos of November 13, 1924, in connection with the separation of the Polish Church, but is also quite thoroughly promoted by the Patriarchs. Thus, the Vicar of Metropolitan Eulogius in Paris, who was consecrated with the permission of the Ecumenical Patriarch, has assumed the title of Chersonese; that is to say, Chersonese, which is now in the territory of Russia, is subject to the Ecumenical Patriarch. The next logical step for the Ecumenical Patriarchate would be to declare the whole of Russia as being under the jurisdiction of Constantinople.

However, the actual spiritual might and even the actual boundaries of authority by far do not correspond to such a self-aggrandizement of Constantinople. Not to mention the fact that almost everywhere the authority of the Patriarch is quite illusory and consists for the most part in the confirmation of bishops who have been elected to various places or the sending of such from Constantinople, many lands which Constantinople considers subject to itself do not have any flock at all under its jurisdiction.

The moral authority of the Patriarchs of Constantinople has likewise fallen very low in view of their extreme instability in ecclesiastical matters. Thus, Patriarch Meletius IV arranged a "Pan-Orthodox Congress," with representatives of various churches, which decreed the introduction of the New Calendar. This decree, recognized only by a part of the Church, introduced a frightful schism among Orthodox Christians. Patriarch Gregory VII recognized the decree of the council of the Living Church concerning the deposing of Patriarch Tikhon, whom not long before this the Synod of Constantinople had declared a "confessor," and then he entered into communion with the "Renovationists" in Russia, which continues up to now.

In sum, the Ecumenical Patriarchate, in theory embracing almost the whole universe and in fact extending its authority only over several dioceses, and in other places having only a higher superficial supervision and receiving certain revenues for this, persecuted by the government at home and not supported by any governmental authority abroad: having lost its significance as a pillar of truth and having itself become a source of division, and at the same time being possessed by an exorbitant love of power―represents a pitiful spectacle which recalls the worst periods in the history of the See of Constantinople.

Regarding the Western Rite


As a newcomer to the faith, Fr. Seraphim Rose certainly was aware of St. John's western rite parishes in France.  Very wisely, he ignored it.  Which is what converts to the Faith today should do also.  We can make it into the Heavenly Church without ever stumbling on the western rite just by ignoring it.

The western rite experiments in France were a failure.  Today (2014) this failure is spreading into America via Satan's delight at spreading Orthodox failures.  Today the western rite no longer has any association with the Royal Path Sister Churches, but it is an integral part of the vigante Milan synod – a noisy artificial hybrid of world-orthodoxy + super-correct. 

I can't caution newcomers enough to avoid the influences from outside our Sister Churches.

I can't caution newcomers enough to avoid the influences from outside our Sister Churches.   Your goal is to catch a glimpse of the Heavenly Church so that you know exactly what to aim for in entering the Church (and this is actually the goal of all our earthly Orthodox life).  

The only valid reason for examining the western rite is to see for yourself that it should just be ignored.  Just like Fr. Seraphim ignored it. 

There is no label for western rite articles on the Remnant Rocor blog.  But you can do a Google search of the website:

Google search these terms:
st. john "western rite" site:remnantrocor.blogspot.com


Google search these terms:
"western rite" site:remnantrocor.blogspot.com